jasonthorsness 15 hours ago

ChatGPT is consistently fast now and gives me much better results than Google. IMO Google has damaged their brand with their "AI Overview" which apparently is a meme/laughingstock amongst the middle school crowd at least at my kids' school.

It's weird because I love the Gemini models; they are very good; Google is fumbling this.

  • joegibbs 15 hours ago

    It’s really terrible, not only does it get a ton of things obviously wrong but it also gets contradicted by the first search result, and it smugly tells you you’re wrong in an authoritative tone as if you’re some kind of idiot for even asking it.

amusely 15 hours ago

When the start of the search is organically moving to chatGPT & other gen AI services - how would users even go from here to Google ?

  • Bluestein 15 hours ago

    Google is effectively dead.-

    • Fade_Dance 15 hours ago

      Google is at 16 billion searches a day currently. It is not "effectively dead."

      • throwaway915 15 hours ago

        Google is on almost every mobile device that's not Apple.

        This antitrust is the thing keeping Google going.

      • amusely 15 hours ago

        statistically based on engagement - chatgpt is 14 requests/user/day vs google which is at 7requests/user/day

        Google has significantly higher user count overall but the usage trend is not in Google's favor.

        • marginalia_nu 13 hours ago

          I don't know if that is necessarily a point in favor of chatgpt.

          The better a search engine (or AI chatbot) works, the fewer queries you need to make to find what you are looking for, so the numbers could also be interpreted as Google still being the more accurate tool for queries.

          • BoiledCabbage 6 hours ago

            The better a product works, the more often you opt to use it. The better it finds needles in haystacks, the more often you choose to use it. Higher engagement is really rarely bad for a product outside of particular odd cases.

        • Bluestein 15 hours ago

          Fair enough ...

          ... Was, Indeed, extrapolating. And doing so, considering that their "AI-oriented" efforts (to play catch up - with the "AI Summaries" and such) are being met with due revulsion.-

amusely 15 hours ago

Probably also the reason why GEO is becoming as important as SEO these days.